Atula, the leader of a group of five hundred lay disciples, wishing to hear the Dhamma, visited the Elder Revata, but the elder remained silent as he was cultivating solitude. Displeased, Atula got up and went to the Elder Sāriputta, telling him what had happened. The Elder Sāriputta discoursed at length on the Abhidhamma. Not able to understand this, and displeased again, Atula went to the Elder Ānanda, who delivered a brief discourse that was simple to understand. Displeased with him too, Atula approached the Buddha, and complained to him. The Buddha said that even kings were blamed by some and praised by others. The great earth itself, the sun and the moon, and even the Fully Enlightened Buddha were blamed by some and praised by others. However, the praise and blame of the foolish was of little account, only the praise and blame of the wise was meaningful. On the conclusion of which the five hundred lay disciples gained Stream-winning.